Curse

varyag · Aug 12, 2005, 09:19 AM // 09:19

I've yet to see the quote where the guild leader and/or representative of Sissy Boys have said what the OP and others claim. What were the exact words?

Know the S word for unsupported accusations? Thats right:

Slander.

JackOften · Aug 12, 2005, 09:21 AM // 09:21

For my next magic trick, I will demonstrate how thin air is transformed into real controversy and ernest disputes!

PieXags · Aug 12, 2005, 09:30 AM // 09:30

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Originally Posted by Blackace

We've already covered in the past why top players leaving doesn't guarantee that those that replace them will be just as good or better. Please dont make things up.

Well of course we can guarantee it, it's happened before. Sure maybe we can't guarantee it more in the future, but here's a question...why the hell does it matter? And can anyone even really tell? Of course not, if one group left and more came, there's no real way to see if they're better or worse, because well, in this game being "good" doesn't have a lot to do with things really, as we can't really measure "skill" in this game.

Honestly though, everyone knows that no group of people in this game is without a group out there just as good, or better than them. It's the way things work, if one group WAS better than all the others, they would win every single time, the fact that all guilds (even the "top" guilds) lose like everyone else does at times, shows that there are already groups just as good as them. Don't make things up? I'm not making them up, you can't argue that their won't be better groups anymore than I can argue there will be better groups, I can only say that...well, it's already happening, and it's happened in every single online RPG I've ever played. Another question that comes to mind is...why the hell does it matter? So what if the top players at the present time leave, it's just text on a screen that supposedly makes them "better", but everyone loses, and nobody and no build is "best" in this game. Which is why it's fair to say that new players and guilds can, and will replace the ones lost.

trelloskilos · Aug 12, 2005, 11:01 AM // 11:01

You know, rant threads are really entertaining. They make the original poster look like he's bending over to put both feet in his/her mouth, while the rest of the community lines up behind them for a real good.....flaming.

What bugs me about the usual "Complaint" threads is just that. There is no offering of a potential solution to the grievances. It doesn't benefit the forum community to just say something like "blahblahblah UW Soloing builds blahblah Nerfed Farming drops blahblah Traders blahblah [insert chip-on-shoulder here] blahblah is so unfair. How about a few more "Wouldn't it be a good idea if Anet did [insert potential solution here] in order to fix [insert grievance here]?" postse?

Artemis Bladewing · Aug 12, 2005, 11:10 AM // 11:10

Well it is true that GW community just cant shut up with their complaints, they all yell for a update and then once its there everyone screams how it sux.

Anyone to the builds, those 3 build are common and used because u can find a group that way in 5 minutes. As for the pet Build and Necro build it takes 2 hours to get a team together.

And for those who say some of the big guild left, go to guildwars.com and look at the ladder or get a rank +100 guild because you can meet Sissy Boys and War Machine all the time Playing GvG, I just met them last night.

Old Dood · Aug 12, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43

I can understand the OP's frustration, however, he would have made a better impression if he cleaned up his grammer. Simply cussing to get your point across weakens your postition.

You want people to play nice? Then one must lead by example. Same for trying to get the game developers attention. Taking the time to make your point in a more professional manner will get better results.

I have met some new people lately in PUGs. We have traded. I always treat people with respect. I traded some decent weapons and other items to some of these new people I have met and I sold them at a song. They were very appreciative. They needed the stuff. They were not scamming me just to resell it. Why do I know this? Because later on they would whisper me with things they thought I might need and they wanted to repay my kindness.

If you go on the 250 People rule (Dale Carnagie, Reaching ONE person will inevitably reach 250 other people) you will be amazed at the response from people that you do not really know that well. They will remember you and your fairness/kindness/honorablity and so forth. Of course there will be immature people. There is no real way around this, except at some point in their lives they WILL grow up and see the light. Why do I know this? Because I was a little stoopid selfish jerk at a point in my life.

Responsiblity really helped cure it for me.

All in all there are good people out there. Make it a "Quest" to find some of them. I firmly believe that Arena-Net/NCsoft is made up of good people. They really TRY to make this game fun for all. However, there is no way to make everyone happy. So count your blessings at what makes you happy in this game(or anything else for that matter) and run with it.

Remember, Misery LOVES company. So when one pisses and moans they will find others will gravitate toward them.

Dadacham · Aug 12, 2005, 12:48 PM // 12:48

So Guild Wars is finally getting stuck in the mire that I said that it would months before it was released but no one would believe the few of us detractors.

MarkyX · Aug 12, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Updated the post with my rant towards Anet.

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I've yet to see the quote where the guild leader and/or representative of Sissy Boys have said what the OP and others claim. What were the exact words?

I've talked to the recruiter of Sissy Boys, The Roflcopter, and he said that most of them play BF2 now.

Hell, they have their own server and I played against them. They could use some practice.

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Speak to us oh prophet! May the foam coming from your mouth quench our thirst for enlightenment!

It's a common thing on the internet. Someone says "OMG I am leaving this forum/game", disappear, and people move on like nothing happened.

The gripe I have is that many top guilds seem to think that they are ambassaders for the community. Sorry, but they don't speak for me. Never will.

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Umm, remember that 'vocal minority' you 'bombared'? They were pointing out that without faster unlocking, people have less incentive of experimenting when known working builds are around...

I'm glad that they want changes, but there is a difference between 'suggesting' and demanding. What some of these guilds are doing is saying "Better give into our demands, or we leave the game. EVERYONE LOVES US, SO THEY WILL LISTEN TO US"

As I said already, they don't speak for me. And I couldn't care less if they leave. In fact, if a guild is so arrogant as to think they any clout because they happen to have a Vent/TS server up and have a good record, maybe it's best that they leave.

Fine line between being helpful and being selfish. And I don't agree with unlocking all skills in the game for PvP.

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Our Majesty the All-Knowing Prophet of Uber Enlightment has decided to resort to the 'I own' clause to support his case. Thrilling.

I'm just showing an example that it is possible to win without using those three builds. Another guild that I respect greatly is Nuclear Launched Detected, that didn't also use spirit spamming, smite, and spikes, won HOH several times.

Aug 12, 2005, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Well of course we can guarantee it, it's happened before.

When?

Meonen · Aug 12, 2005, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I agree with the opinion that the good guilds won't be replaced.

Take a look at KOR. They left a while ago, and there aren't any guilds that are even near their level of skill.

austinp · Aug 12, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Meonen

I agree with the opinion that the good guilds won't be replaced.

Take a look at KOR. They left a while ago, and there aren't any guilds that are even near their level of skill.

Most of this thread is bs, people jsut talking without knowing. Sissy boys havent or is going leave anytime soon, we however have stop pvping because we dont want to play the healing ball spirit build that is not us! We have alot more fun just gvging. Btw sissy boys is not an alpha guild or has any privilages over anyone here, we are just like any of you, before this game we dint even had a guild.

Btw let me reply my feelings on the KOR thing. War machine has always been better that KOR since day one, they had rule the ladder and beat KOR many times. Their level of skill was never that high, they had a year of practice that most of us disnt have. Today the level of skill on gvg is much higer than what it was when the game started, you got guilds that are leading the ladder not because they were alpha players but because they are good.

Teh Azman · Aug 12, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46

Oh God. My poor, poor virgin eyes.

Look, everyone seems to treat this game like it should be absolutely perfect and should be hands down the best choice for an MMO out there. IT IS A FREE MMO. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PERFECT. Although I do think it is pretty damn good game, and I'll say it again, it's not going to be perfect. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but if you don't like it I really don't care. Nobody does. You whiners need to get it into your head that we don't. I'm sorry about this being a little bit of a rude post but I'm really sick of seeing half the threads on these forums being whines, and I just had to let this out. ^_^

Nash · Aug 12, 2005, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Then the other half is people who whine about others whining, which is just dumb.

Rapiki · Aug 12, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49

It would appear some of you guys have Sissy boys confused with other guilds. While some of us are indeed annoyed with several issues (spirit spam/heal ball making HoH incredibly dumb, overpowered natures renewal, long waits to find GvG matches, ect.), we are not one of the guilds continuously posting on forums like TGH threatening to leave all the time. I think the guild you're thinking of is Nuclear Launch Detected, or more specifically, Kunt0r, one of their members (of course, Nu is far from the only guild with players posting similar statements).

Not only are we still here, but we are better than we've ever been. Just yesterday, we reclaimed the number one spot on the official guild ladder. The fact that people don't see us around nearly as much anymore is due to a number of reasons, none of which involve us having quit. We're often playing as one of our secondary guilds for things like build testing, screwing around, and being able to actually find a match. Another big reason we seem to have disappeared is because we almost never tombs as a guild group anymore so people don't see our name flashed across the server for HoH wins. For us, tombs just isn't fun anymore. In addition to ganking, tombs is just full of healing balls/spirit spam builds that sap so much fun out of the game. But don't think that it is an issue of us not being able to defeat those builds that keeps us out. Quite the opposite, we take those builds out back behind the shed and beat the crap out of them. So I must say, it was quite satisfying yesterday when we got #1 back since the guild we defeated in GvG that put us there was none other than the current kings of the HoH holding build, marvel superheroes.

King Rapiki / The Roflcopter

Meonen · Aug 12, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

I really don't want this to become which guild is better than which guild... but I just want to say one thing in response to austin...

KOR is a fairly large guild, which means their 8 best players aren't always playing, or playing with each other. Their 8 players, from the BWE's, are insanely good.

That is all.

Teh Azman · Aug 12, 2005, 06:52 PM // 18:52

No I don't think anyone starts a thread just to whine about whiners.

We do it when they've already looked like idiots for us.

austinp · Aug 12, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

no said they werent good. I said they are not the best players ever.

MarkyX · Aug 12, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by Rapiki

It would appear some of you guys have Sissy boys confused with other guilds. While some of us are indeed annoyed with several issues (spirit spam/heal ball making HoH incredibly dumb, overpowered natures renewal, long waits to find GvG matches, ect.), we are not one of the guilds continuously posting on forums like TGH threatening to leave all the time. I think the guild you're thinking of is Nuclear Launch Detected, or more specifically, Kunt0r, one of their members (of course, Nu is far from the only guild with players posting similar statements).

Not only are we still here, but we are better than we've ever been. Just yesterday, we reclaimed the number one spot on the official guild ladder. The fact that people don't see us around nearly as much anymore is due to a number of reasons, none of which involve us having quit. We're often playing as one of our secondary guilds for things like build testing, screwing around, and being able to actually find a match. Another big reason we seem to have disappeared is because we almost never tombs as a guild group anymore so people don't see our name flashed across the server for HoH wins. For us, tombs just isn't fun anymore. In addition to ganking, tombs is just full of healing balls/spirit spam builds that sap so much fun out of the game. But don't think that it is an issue of us not being able to defeat those builds that keeps us out. Quite the opposite, we take those builds out back behind the shed and beat the crap out of them. So I must say, it was quite satisfying yesterday when we got #1 back since the guild we defeated in GvG that put us there was none other than the current kings of the HoH holding build, marvel superheroes.

King Rapiki / The Roflcopter

Then why did you tell me a few weeks ago that SB are mostly playing BF2 nowadays? :P

Acólito · Aug 13, 2005, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by Angelina

Sissy Boys was at the air spike times. They left at same time rangers spirit builds came out. Strange isn't it?

We didn't leave but exactly, the most of us quited tombs....making spiking teams(of any type) or smitting teams or fight against them was really fun because the battles only lasts few minutes and them required lot of skills, hability in the game. The spirits builds made so much boring that it was no more fun so the most of us just do GvG now...not more in sB cuz with sB we can't find opponents before 20~40 minutes. We create other guilds and fight there like Bravo Squad, Sparkling bubbles, etc.

Some of us(like me) still do tombs....but we all hope Anet will do something about the lame spirit builds that make you stay in one map for like 30~60 minutes without killing anybody and making HoH a game of killing non players but spirits...and if you get to 1v1 and a spirit build is holding it its imposilbe to take it giving the other team absolutelly no opportunity to win.

Until Anet fix the spirits i don't think we are gonna go tombs with a full sB team again because is boring.

And we are not gods that they have to do what we want like you say...we just play what is fun for us to play just like everybody else.

What i do about this is just not playing with lame spirit spammers guilds like superheroes and not talking to spammers that are makig this lovely game boring.

Sangui
Sissy Boys

PD: i have a lot more of things to say but i have to go do parachuting

Sangui · Aug 13, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27

oops forgot that i was logged with my old acc, that was me.

survived to parachuting